Creating sus4 Chords

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Ken Lehman - December 10, 2014 Reply

Great Lesson

Petaia Maimanuku - December 11, 2014 Reply

Great lesson. Excellent stuff. Just a question. So is the sus part of the name because the third is not going to sound anywhere in the chord and is completely replaced by the fourth? Because I have seen some chords called something then add 9th or something like that which I imagine would mean that all three original notes for the triad remain and the 9th is just added.

    jboettcher - December 12, 2014 Reply

    Hi Petaia, that's a great question.

    Yes, in the case of a suspended chord, the third is being replaced. In this particular example, it is being replaced with a fourth, though you can use other notes as well.

    In contrast to this, you could ADD a fourth if you wanted to - ideally in a different octave and then you'd have a Dadd4, and in that case you would still have the third included in the chord.

    So yes, you're correct.

Walter Peters - December 11, 2014 Reply

Thank You John - Nice notes - Nice Tones..........Thank You...............

Mike N Debra Revell - December 11, 2014 Reply

great stuff!

Nick Wasko - July 3, 2015 Reply

Gimme Shelter, Rolling Stones, good example, great to hear it in use, then we might get a clearer idea, 'oh yeah I heard that before'. Any other songs, there are heaps that use that same pattern.

    jboettcher - July 3, 2015 Reply

    Yeah, too many to mention. I probably use it in 95% of all the songs I play on guitar. And of course, it should go without saying that this applies to the other chords as well, not just D...

Nick Wasko - July 3, 2015 Reply

Elton John, Bad Company, so many do it. Just an idea to show how the Sus4 is used. Interesting how such a small thing can be the signature part to a whole song. Tangled Up In Blue. etc.

gene whitcomb - July 4, 2015 Reply

good lesson , learned something. How can I get a eat, sleep, play guitar tee shirt?

    jboettcher - July 8, 2015 Reply

    Hi Gene, if you contact jonathan@playguitar.com we can get that setup for you. We don't have them available through the online store yet, but we could arrange that directly still.

Dan Mack - July 25, 2015 Reply

Hey Jonathan! It's always nice, while sitting in a hotel room on a layover with the airlline, to take a quality lesson. It sure beats flipping through useless and mindless TV. Keep up the good work and keep in touch.

Dan

John - October 26, 2018 Reply

Your teaching is superb! Do you have an affiliate setup?

    jboettcher - October 26, 2018 Reply

    Thank you, and yes, details here.

snbracker@gmail.com - October 27, 2018 Reply

Wouldn't the notes on the 6th, 5th and 4th string which are 1, 4, 5, (not in that order) be considered sus chords? and then the notes on the 5th, 4th, and 3rd also? (strumming the bottom strings only).
Thanks for all your generosity and valuable/useful explanations. Very much appreciated.

    jboettcher - October 27, 2018 Reply

    Hi Suzanne, on the 6,5,4 strings we have E, A, D. If we're in the key of A, then yes, those three (out of order) are the A-1,D-4,E-5 notes. However, if you played them as they are on the guitar, E, A, D, then the E is the lowest note in the chord, and as such, influences it quite a lot - much more than the other two notes. In this case I believe it would pull the chord too far off the A to really sound like an Asus4 chord, but that's a matter of perspective I suppose.

    In regard to the other three strings, we have G, B, and E. The relationship between those is different than the other strings, because G to B is a major third, not a fourth. So there is no key in which G, B, E notes are I, IV, IV of each other. That said, those three notes do form an E minor chord, inverted with the E root note on the highest string.

      snbracker@gmail.com - October 28, 2018 Reply

      Thanks for the reply. Not sure if I was very clear or if I am understanding. ( I am a beginner).

      If I take the 3rd fret for example, and play the strings, 6-5-(G and C) and the 4th string the E on the second fret I have a C triad. Then I move the E to the F on the 3rd fret and have my 1-4-5 (CFG). In other words when the 6th, 5th and 4th strings are played they make up a 1-4-5 progression on all the frets. (although out of order). Seems to be true for the 5th, 4th and 3rd string.. EX: 3rd Fret would be C-F-Bb. (F-Bb-C). I realize that you can only strum these 3 strings, But mainly I want to know if I am understanding the concept. Yikes!

      Totally appreciate your strumming and scale courses that I am working on.

        jboettcher - October 29, 2018 Reply

        Hi Suzanne, I see where you're going now. Yes, you're understanding the intervals correctly. I suppose I think about it slightly differently, but what you've said is correct. Take a look at the spacing between the strings. E-A = 4th, A-D = 4th, D-G = 4th, G-B = major 3rd, B-E = 4th. Seeing that, just about anywhere on the fretboard you now know that if you play two strings side by side on the same fret, you have a fourth interval, except of course on the 2nd and 3rd strings, in which case you always have a major third interval.

        Now, to find the 5th, just move the 4th up two frets. There's your I-IV-V pattern in two strings. That's also an easier configuration to work with, if you're playing bar chords for instance, because you can use chords rooted off those notes.

        Now, look at the tuning relationships the other way around.... A-E = 5th. So, we discover that a 4th interval is actually the exact same as an inverted 5th. Inverted means you take the root note and put it higher in pitch than the other note. This is why you're seeing the pattern you mentioned. The root note you're talking about is on the middle string of the three, the fourth is on the higher string, and the fifth is inverted, on the lower string.

        Does that make sense?

          snbracker@gmail.com - October 29, 2018 Reply

          Much gratitude for your prompt, excellent explanation. I have had theory but transferring from piano to guitar has been a bit of a struggle. I am beginning to see the light.

          jboettcher - October 29, 2018 Reply

          You're most welcome!

- October 27, 2018 Reply

Great lesson about how to form the sus4. I have seen sus2 chords as well. Does that mean that you replace the 3rd by the 2nd?

    jboettcher - October 27, 2018 Reply

    Yes, exactly.

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